[abc80] How to load .bac files into an ABC80/800 emulator?

Tors Sep 6 14:02:53 PDT 2018

Hi,

I think someone on the mailing list actually managed to automate this 
process, using these command line tools instead of abcexplorer:

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~exon/archive/ABCWin2/ABCTools.zip

Like so:

dosgen mydisk.dsk
doscopy mydisk.dsk -b myprog.bac

The cassette interface was never completed, i'm afraid... the idea was 
to use .wav-files or some audio interface to load files using the 
standard cas:-driver in the ABC80.

BR,

Erik

On 2018-09-06 11:07, Fabrizio Caruso wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> I am using multiple emulators:
> ABC80SIM (can load .ihx files maybe only these non-standard files)
> ABCWin1.1 (cannot load the .bac correctly: it produces random characters)
> ABCWin2.3 BETA (I managed to load the .bac inside the .dsk but not the 
> .bac)
>
> So ABVWin2.3 allows me to use .dsk with .bac files inside them but 
> .dsk cannot be created automatically.
> I need to load my game in a standard format that can be created by a 
> script like .bac.
>
> How can I load .bac files? Is there any emulator that can do that 
> correctly?
> ABCWIn2.3 Config -> Cassette does nothing
> Is it a bug? Is there a fully working version?
>
>     Fabrizio
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Erik Isaksson <exon at lysator.liu.se>
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 septembre 2018 18:15
> *À :* Fabrizio Caruso
> *Objet :* Re: [abc80] A new game for ABC80 and ABC800 computers
> Hello Fabrizio,
>
> how do you mean that "ABCWin has the option but it is greyed out"? Which
> version of ABCWin are you using?
>
> The best way to load a .bac-file into ABCWin would be as you suggested
> below, using ABCExplorer to write it to a .dsk-image. Once "mounted"
> into ABCWin, just type LOAD followed by your filename and press enter.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Erik
>
>
> On 2018-09-05 18:06, Fabrizio Caruso wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > How do I load the .bac file into an emulator? Which emulator should 
> I use?
> > I could use bin2bac2 to convert bin -> bac
> >
> > I cannot find an emulator capable of reading .bac files.
> > ABCWin has the option but it is greyed out. Is it a bug?
> >
> > So I used ABCExplorer to insert the .bac file into a .dsk disk image.
> >
> > I could mount the image into ABCWin but no idea how to load it.
> >
> > Could you please help us on this?
> >
> >     Fabrizio
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > De : Andreas Gustafsson <andreas.gustafsson at gmail.com>
> > Envoyé : mardi 4 septembre 2018 21:06
> > À : dom at suborbital.org.uk
> > Cc : fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com; abc80; Stefano Bodrato
> > Objet : Re: [abc80] A new game for ABC80 and ABC800 computers
> >
> > Sorry, one letter wrong:
> > http://ag1976.com/files/abc_bintool_src.zip
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 22:35, Dom Morris 
> <dom at suborbital.org.uk<mailto:dom at suborbital.org.uk>> wrote:
> > No worries - I'd just use it as reference. That link appears to be 
> dead though?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, at 8:52 PM, Andreas Gustafsson wrote:
> > Yeah, sure, but it's not very good code, I just hacked it together 
> to get the job done!
> >
> > http://ag1976.com/files/abc_bintools_src.zip
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 11:55, Dom Morris 
> <dom at suborbital.org.uk<mailto:dom at suborbital.org.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you - is it possible to get the source? And would you have an 
> objections to a rewrite of it being included within the z88dk appmake?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018, at 10:36 AM, Andreas Gustafsson wrote:
> > Sure, here are the files:
> > http://ag1976.com/files/abc_bin_tools.zip
> >
> > Note that these are just quick hacks, so error checking etc. are 
> non-existent!
> >
> > For the .BAC files, the bin is included as some kind of string-data, 
> so it's much more effective compared to DATA statements, I'm not 100% 
> sure exactly how it works since it wasn't I who invented it.
> > But for the 16kb memory ABC80 I think you can load binaries of at 
> least 12kb or so.
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 10:44, Fabrizio Caruso 
> <fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com<mailto:fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Could you please share all these tools?
> > I use Cygwin under Windows.
> > How do you do the conversion? Do you include the code as DATA 
> statements? That would make >8k programs impossible to load.
> > How do you do bin->abs for the ABC806?
> >
> >     Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     Fabrizio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Andreas Gustafsson 
> <andreas.gustafsson at gmail.com<mailto:andreas.gustafsson at gmail.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:40:46 AM
> > To: fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com<mailto:fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: abc80
> > Subject: Re: [abc80] A new game for ABC80 and ABC800 computers
> >
> > When I do my cross-compiling, I do bin->bac format for the ABC80, 
> the .bac files can then be placed in a .dsk file and run from the 
> standard ABC80 prompt.
> > For the ABC806 I use bin->abs format, put the files in a .dsk image 
> and run them from UFD-DOS. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the ABC800 
> would work similar to the ABC806.
> > I've written some small windows command line tools to handle the 
> bin2bac and bin2abs conversion. If you're working in a Linux 
> environment, I know that there's a perl script that can handle 
> bin->bac, for bin to abs I'm not certain.
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Fabrizio Caruso 
> <fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com<mailto:fabrizio_caruso at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I am the author of Cross Chase, which is a "universal" game written 
> in C and compiled for all 8-bit computers/consoles/handhelds/pocket 
> calculators including the Luxor ABC 80 and Luxor ABC 800.
> >
> > You can follow my project at:
> > https://github.com/Fabrizio-Caruso/CROSS-CHASE
> > and get the binaries:
> > 
> https://github.com/Fabrizio-Caruso/CROSS-CHASE/releases/download/BombDance/FULL_abc80.ihx
> > 
> https://github.com/Fabrizio-Caruso/CROSS-CHASE/releases/download/BombDance/FULL_abc800.bin
> > 
> https://github.com/Fabrizio-Caruso/CROSS-CHASE/releases/download/BombDance/LIGHT_abc80.ihx
> > (currently the game as an input issue)
> >
> > So far I can make versions for both these computers but I have no 
> way to test the ABC 800 version because I don't know how to load the 
> game... I can barely test the ABC 80 version but only with the 
> ABC80SIM emulator because this emulator can read .ihx (sort of binary 
> in hex format).
> >
> > I can easily create a raw binary version. Are there tools to convert 
> a raw binary (for example with start at address 49200) into something 
> loadable by an emulator? Like a .wav or .dsk image?
> >
> > Could someone here please help me?
> >
> >     Fabrizio
> >
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